Hosts Bo and Rainey introduce the new podcast 'Hidden Creatures' as well as themselves, share some personal experiences on such hidden creatures, and both dive into the Squonk and the Fairy cow of Ireland, better known as the Glas Gaibhnenn.
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Speaker BWelcome to the first episode of Hidden Creatures mcfap Encounters with Father and Son.
Speaker BMcfap stands for mythical cryptid Fae, slash fairy, alien and paranormal.
Speaker BSo what we are doing here, as the name suggests, father and son, we're looking at the relationships between the mcfap umbrella.
Speaker BAgain, mythical cryptid, fairy fae, alien, paranormal, you know, trying to try to explore if they're all related or if they're each their individual category.
Speaker BIn order to do that, we're going to be interviewing people who have a lot of really interesting interviews lined up for this season.
Speaker BWe have interviews with people who've experienced a witch, Bigfoot, ghosts, aliens, aliens, a folklore, a folklorist who specializes in Southern Appalachia, or Appalachia, I guess, depending on where you're from.
Speaker BDepends on how you pronounce it.
Speaker BSo we're gonna be doing that.
Speaker BSo some of our episodes are going to be doing those interviews, and other episodes are just gonna be the two of us doing sort of dives into creatures.
Speaker BSo this being our first interview, we decided we should sort of introduce ourselves, talk about some strange experiences we have had, and then we are each going to talk about a creature.
Speaker BWe have each chosen a creature.
Speaker ARainy, your creature is the glass Gabby lamb, I think.
Speaker BYeah, I think so.
Speaker BAnd mine is the squonk.
Speaker BWe will.
Speaker BWe will tell some of our own stories first, and then we'll get into the creatures.
Speaker BAnd then episode two, we are slated to interview the witch.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BOkay, so we're gonna start with my.
Speaker BMy experiences.
Speaker BMy first experience, I'm gonna refer to it as the property.
Speaker BAnd we're gonna be talking to quite a few people who have had experiences on the property as well, including me.
Speaker BSo I've been sort of on and off the property for the past 20 years and have had a slew of experiences.
Speaker BWe're going to talk about one today.
Speaker BYeah, and just about.
Speaker BJust about anybody who spent any kind of time out there has had some.
Speaker AKind of weird experience.
Speaker BSome kind of weird experience.
Speaker BSo we're going to be talking about quite a few of those over.
Speaker BOver our journey through this podcast.
Speaker BBut today we're talking about mine.
Speaker BSo my first experience about 20 years ago, we were out there and it was like a.
Speaker BSort of like a summer camp for kids.
Speaker BAnd before.
Speaker BAnd this was the first year it was active.
Speaker BBefore we had.
Speaker BWas just sort of an abandoned property for a while.
Speaker BAnd it's pretty big property, combination of, like, fields, like hilly fields, and like, forested areas.
Speaker BOne night I was.
Speaker BI was doing an overnight shift and I was down where the kids slept, just to make sure the kids didn't do kid type stuff.
Speaker BSo it was me and a couple other.
Speaker BCouple other staff members at the time.
Speaker BAnd where they slept was up on top of the hill.
Speaker BAnd so it was like you know, sort of clear like pasture area, fieldy area and then going down the hill into a hollow or a holler depending on where you're from.
Speaker BIt got.
Speaker BIt got sort of wooded but there wasn't like down in the bottom there wasn't a lot of underbr.
Speaker BSo it was more like park like I guess, you know, a bunch of trees, sort of older trees, but not a lot of undergrowth.
Speaker BWe were up there and we heard this sound that sounded similar to a male deer buck sort of huffing or blowing.
Speaker BAnd it's.
Speaker BIt's sort of this like in my imitation it's going to sound nothing like what it really.
Speaker BBut you'll get sort of a vague idea if you've never heard it before.
Speaker BIt's like a sort of like this deep, longy, throaty, you know where they just forced sort of this like it sounds like that roughly.
Speaker BSo me being the person I am, we had this big spotlight.
Speaker BSo I took the spotlight, shine it down in the woods because I wanted to see some deer.
Speaker BAnd this one sounded really big.
Speaker BSo I really wanted to see like a really big deer.
Speaker BAnd didn't see anything.
Speaker BIt was quiet, you know.
Speaker BFive minutes later or so, heard the noise again, shine the spotlight again, didn't see anything again.
Speaker BFive minutes later, exact same thing.
Speaker BHeard the noise, shine the spotlight, didn't see anything.
Speaker BIt's not that important.
Speaker BI was like.
Speaker BAnd whatever.
Speaker BSo we had a.
Speaker BLike a little shack that we could go into.
Speaker BThere's a computer in there, like a refrigerator, some chairs.
Speaker BSo I went in and sat down in the shack.
Speaker BAnd it was small, it's like maybe, maybe 10 by 10 wooden.
Speaker BThe door faced like where the kids slept.
Speaker BHad windows on the other three sides and the back in the back of the shack faced down into the.
Speaker BThe holler.
Speaker BSo I went, sat down, was sitting down for however long, 5, 10 minutes and something big hit the back of that shack hard enough to make it shake.
Speaker BAnd then you could hear runoff, screaming, yelling.
Speaker BIt was more of a yell than scream but it was this sort of deep guttural, but at the same time sort of high pitched noise.
Speaker BSo I jumped out, grabbed the flash, grab the spotlight, you know, whatever.
Speaker BDidn't see anything but we could hear it running.
Speaker BIt was big and it was by.
Speaker BBy bipedal.
Speaker BBipedal, however you pronounce it, meaning it was running on two feet.
Speaker BAnd things running on two feet sound a lot different than things running on four feet.
Speaker BAnd this definitely sounded like it was running on two feet.
Speaker BDidn't see anything.
Speaker BAll I could do is hear it.
Speaker BI could hear it running and I could hear it making this guttural, low, but also high pitched noise.
Speaker BAnd I realize something can't be low and high at the same time.
Speaker BCancel each other out.
Speaker BI get it.
Speaker BBut that's what it sounded like.
Speaker BTalked with, talk with the other people on.
Speaker BLike none of us knew what could be nothing.
Speaker BAnd this was in north Alabama and nothing we know of that lived in the area or lives in the era is a that size that's strong and makes that noise, you know.
Speaker BSo it wasn't like it wasn't a wild pig, it wasn't a bear, it wasn't a deer, it wasn't an owl, it wasn't a mountain lion.
Speaker BI spent a lot of time in the woods and nothing I've ever experienced sound or moved like that.
Speaker BNext morning people came, you know, talking to the people run the place and all that.
Speaker BSo I told them about it.
Speaker BLike, ah, you know, it's probably an owl.
Speaker BAn owl probably ran into the back of it.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker BIt was not.
Speaker BNow like owls like sort of look big but there are a lot of feathers and they aren't like, they aren't.
Speaker BDon't have that much mass to them.
Speaker BAnd now couldn't have hit it hard enough to make it move.
Speaker BLike, oh, maybe a deer ran into the back.
Speaker BNo, wasn't a deer, wasn't a bear.
Speaker BLike it, like I said, it was nothing that I've ever had an experience with.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd that was that just this crazy experience didn't really happen again to me out there.
Speaker BBut it was definitely, definitely a crazy, crazy experience.
Speaker BNo question.
Speaker BSorry.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AHow fast was it running?
Speaker BIt was running fast.
Speaker BI would say at at least as fast as a person could sprint, like full out.
Speaker BBut they, this creature like maintained it.
Speaker BSo it wasn't, you know, people can only sprint for so long.
Speaker BLike this creature maintained that speed until I couldn't hear it anymore.
Speaker BLike it.
Speaker BYeah, it was, it was fast and moving and like it was running through woods.
Speaker BLike there wasn't a lot of undergrowth.
Speaker BThere was still some undergrowth and there, you know, trees are down.
Speaker BSo you had, you have to clear, you know, logs and stuff like that.
Speaker BAnd it was the middle of the night, so it was dark.
Speaker BSo imagine sprinting all out through the woods at night.
Speaker AHow long could you hear it running?
Speaker BThat's a good question.
Speaker BI'd say a couple of minutes.
Speaker BA couple of minutes.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BMy next encounter.
Speaker BI guess I'm gonna talk about three encounters.
Speaker BMy next counter or weird thing happened in the.
Speaker BIn the Great Smoky Mountain National Park.
Speaker BI was leaving a backpacking trip.
Speaker BKids, one other staff member.
Speaker BSouthern edge of the Smoky Mountains.
Speaker BThere's a big lake.
Speaker BThere used to be a river there.
Speaker BDammed up the river, you know, created a big lake, and people lived along it.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo they had to move all those people out.
Speaker BBut part of the deal was they were going to build.
Speaker BThey were going to build a road so people could get back in and get to those, you know, their sort of home sites and their towns and their cemeteries and graveyards.
Speaker BAnd so they.
Speaker BThe, you know, park service government started building a road.
Speaker BIn the beginning, the road went through the mountains.
Speaker BThey had to, you know, dig a tunnel.
Speaker BHowever, once they got the tunnel built, that's how they weren't going to make the road anymore.
Speaker BSo the start of the trail, you have to walk through this long tunnel that was built for a road, but they never put a road there.
Speaker BSo anyway, you walk through tunnel, trail, whatever drop down, and that trail, you know, sort of goes the length of the.
Speaker BOr the width of the Smokies along the.
Speaker BAlong the lake there.
Speaker BAnd I believe it's called the Lakeshore Trail.
Speaker BBut anyway, we got in and, you know, the first big trail coming up off the lake, more going more into the park.
Speaker BI believe it's called the Forney Creek Trail.
Speaker BSo the first night we camped, you know, right there where.
Speaker BWhere Lakeshore met forty Creek.
Speaker BThe next day, we headed up Forney Creek Trail, about 10 miles.
Speaker BAs we go on the other.
Speaker BThe other, you know, staff member and I, or the other staff member know, she just sort of got sort of slower as the day went on, and slower and slower.
Speaker BSo I pulled her aside.
Speaker BI was like, hey, you know, what's going on?
Speaker BNotice, moving too quickly.
Speaker BThey expressed to me that their foot was bothering them.
Speaker BSo I was like, okay, well, you know, we'll just take it easy, get to camp, figure it out.
Speaker BGot to camp, talk to them.
Speaker BA couple years prior, they're in a really bad car accident.
Speaker BMessed up their foot.
Speaker BReally bad foot.
Speaker BBasically had to be completely rebuilt.
Speaker BA bunch of, like, screws and nuts and bolts and plates and whatever.
Speaker BAnd the foot really bothered him.
Speaker BSo I said, hey, check it out.
Speaker BWe can do a couple things for.
Speaker BWe can wake up in the morning.
Speaker BIf you're feeling better, we can keep going.
Speaker BIf you're not feeling better, we can just take a day off, Hang out here.
Speaker BYou know that your foot recuperates some.
Speaker BWe'll make call in the morning.
Speaker BWoke up the next morning, the person's like, you know, my foot, my foot is no good.
Speaker BWe'll just stay here.
Speaker BSo we stayed there that day, you know, checked in on them throughout the day.
Speaker BEnd of the day, you know, they're like, yeah, foot, foot's still not feeling great.
Speaker BI don't think we can go any further.
Speaker BSo we came up with a plan.
Speaker BWe're like, look, here's what we'll do.
Speaker BWe'll just, we'll hike back out.
Speaker BBut tomorrow we won't do it all in one day because it was like, it was like a 14 mile hike out.
Speaker BI was like, but tomorrow, you know, we have to do 10 miles back to, back to the, you know, campsite A.
Speaker BBut this is what we'll do.
Speaker BI'll wake up early, I'll run my stuff back to that campsite, I'll drop my stuff, I'll come back up, I'll pick up you and the kids, I'll carry all of your stuff, and then we'll head back out.
Speaker BSo basically I was doing a 30 mile hike that day.
Speaker AA lot.
Speaker BYes, that is a lot.
Speaker BAnd usually when I'm hiking and backpacking, I like, I like to take my time, I like to see the sights, I like to take in nature.
Speaker BYou know, I don't, I don't like to rush through it.
Speaker BLike, you know, I'm, I'm known for.
Speaker BIf you come across a nice rock, a nice vista, a nice field in the south here we have what's called balds, which are, you know, tops of mountains that, that, you know, there's no growth on them, so just nice sort of grassy areas.
Speaker BThey're not like, I'll pull over, I'll take a nap.
Speaker BI like taking my time and just enjoying it.
Speaker BCampsite on the trail is where you eat dinner, where you sleep.
Speaker BThat's it.
Speaker BI want to be on the trail as much as possible and take my time and enjoy it.
Speaker BSo anyway, but this day I was cruising because I had to walk 30 miles and there wasn't really time for me to enjoy what was going on.
Speaker BSo anyway, a couple miles into this hike, meet back up forty Creek.
Speaker BAnd where we met up, like the creek was on my left, which would have been east side.
Speaker BI was headed south and then to my Right there is, like, a little shoulder of the mountain, but not much.
Speaker BNot much underbrush on it.
Speaker BAnd I'm cruising, and I look up, and there are five wolves in the middle of the trail.
Speaker BAnd I'm sure we all had the same look on our face when we saw each other.
Speaker BOne look was like, what the heck are you doing here?
Speaker BBecause you're not supposed to be here.
Speaker BYou know, for me, it was, you know, early morning.
Speaker BLike, it was duskish.
Speaker BYou know, there was.
Speaker BIt was light.
Speaker BI didn't have a headlamp on or anything.
Speaker BIt was light, but it wasn't, you know, full.
Speaker BFull sunshine.
Speaker BSo probably earlier than most.
Speaker BMost hikers get moving.
Speaker BAnd so for them, they just weren't expecting to see a person there at that time of the morning.
Speaker BAnd I wasn't expecting to.
Speaker BTo see wolves because, well, wolves don't live in the Smokies.
Speaker BWell, they aren't supposed to live in the Smokies anyway.
Speaker BI know somebody else saying, oh, like, he probably saw coyotes or there was dogs or.
Speaker BIt wasn't.
Speaker BThey weren't.
Speaker BThey were wolves.
Speaker BI know what wolves look like.
Speaker BThese were wolves.
Speaker BLike I said, there was five of them.
Speaker BThree of them.
Speaker BI can't describe what they looked like.
Speaker BLike, I know there's five.
Speaker BThree of them.
Speaker BI can't describe to you.
Speaker BThe.
Speaker BThe one that I'm assuming was the leader looked like your typical wolf, sort of grayish, like a mask, sort of.
Speaker BAnd that one, I.
Speaker BWe just sort of locked eyes and just looked at each other and.
Speaker BAnd the fifth one was all black.
Speaker BAnd initially, when I first came up to it, like, it was sort of at the.
Speaker BSort of far end of the pack, and it walked up and placed itself between the rest of the pack and me.
Speaker BI have no idea how long this.
Speaker BThis interaction took place, but it was a while we came to an understanding that, like, none of us were there to mess with the other one.
Speaker BIt's not like we talked to each other, but it was like.
Speaker BIt was.
Speaker BIt was just this understanding.
Speaker BI stayed where I was.
Speaker BThey were.
Speaker BYou know, I let them do whatever they do, and then they just.
Speaker BHowever long.
Speaker BI can't tell you how long it was, it was a weird experience.
Speaker BAnd then they all sort of moved off together to my right, which would have been to the west, sort of up.
Speaker BUp the shoulder.
Speaker BAnd then they just sort of dissolved, you know, and it was a slow.
Speaker BA slow dissolve, which, again, I understand, sounds probably weird because they didn't disappear.
Speaker BIt wasn't like they.
Speaker BIt wasn't like they went into the underbrush and I couldn't see them anymore.
Speaker BOr they went over the shoulder of the mountain and so I couldn't see them anymore.
Speaker BIt was more of just like they dissolved.
Speaker BLike.
Speaker BLike you could see the picture and it.
Speaker BAnd the picture faded out.
Speaker BSort of like, you know, the end of song sometimes how the end of songs fade out.
Speaker BIt was.
Speaker BIt was almost a similar thing where the visual physical being of these wolves just faded out.
Speaker BDropped my stuff, came back, got them, got them back down, Hiked out next day, talked to some rangers and said, hey, I saw some wolves.
Speaker BAnd they said, no, you didn't.
Speaker BWolves don't live here.
Speaker BAnd I said, well, you need to tell them that.
Speaker BBecause sure enough, there were some wolves.
Speaker BThere was five.
Speaker BI saw them.
Speaker BAnd he said, no, no, no, you probably saw coyotes.
Speaker BI said, no, I know what coyotes look like.
Speaker BThese were not coyotes.
Speaker BAh, well, it's probably a pack of dogs, like packages, wild dogs.
Speaker BNope, I know what dogs look like.
Speaker BNot dogs.
Speaker BThese were wolves.
Speaker BDidn't believe me.
Speaker BTold me I was, you know, seeing things.
Speaker BDidn't know.
Speaker BI know what I was looking at.
Speaker BBut again, I know, like I've spent a lot of time in the backcountry in the Southeast, the Rocky Mountain West.
Speaker BSpent a lot of time.
Speaker BI know what wolves look like.
Speaker BI know what dogs look like.
Speaker BI know what coyotes look like.
Speaker BAnd these were wolves.
Speaker BOkay, so my last encounter again, smokies similar area, but this time we were doing Lakeshore Trail.
Speaker BBut we were going from the.
Speaker BThe eastern edge all the way along to the western edge.
Speaker BAnd the western edge of Lakeshore Trail meets up with the Appalachian Trail to cross the.
Speaker BThe dam down there.
Speaker BIt's things called Fontana Dam a couple days in.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd the only way to access that area, I guess there are two ways.
Speaker BIt's either by foot or by boat.
Speaker BThere isn't a road anywhere close to it.
Speaker BThere's not a parking area.
Speaker BAnd even my boat is sort of.
Speaker BIt's rough because the, you know, they flooded mountains.
Speaker BSo, you know, all the shores are real, real steep.
Speaker BIt's not.
Speaker BAren't like good landings.
Speaker BIt's not an easy place to get to even on.
Speaker BEven on foot.
Speaker BAnd we're probably right in the middle, so probably 20 miles, give or take from.
Speaker BFrom the nearest trailhead or road.
Speaker BSet up camp that night, went to bed.
Speaker BMiddle of night, I. I woke up because I. I heard what sounded like, like a pack of dogs, like somebody was out there running dogs, you know, after raccoons or whatever.
Speaker BSo you know, I woke up, paid attention to it because I didn't want a bunch of, you know, hounds come running through camp or, you know, a hunter come running through our campsite.
Speaker BSo, you know, figured I'd, you know, give them a little bit of warning.
Speaker BI mean, there's nothing I could do about the dogs running through, but I could let the hunter know.
Speaker BAnd then as, like, I sort of woke up and my mind started working a little better, I got thinking, like, who the heck would be running dogs out here?
Speaker BBecause like I said, we were.
Speaker BWe were far, you know, 20 miles or so from.
Speaker BFrom a trailhead, which means that they would have had run those dogs for 20 miles, which means to get back out, they'd have to run those dogs and themselves another 20 miles.
Speaker BI know I just said I did, like, 30 miles, my last one, but still, like, that's a lot.
Speaker BAnd 40 miles is a lot more.
Speaker BAnd it's not the easiest to train.
Speaker BI mean, you're up and down and around, and so there's that.
Speaker BSo we really weren't close to a trailhead.
Speaker BThe other thing is, it's illegal to hunt in national parks.
Speaker BAnd I know people poach.
Speaker BIt's silly, but they do it.
Speaker BI get it.
Speaker BBut usually people who are poaching, like, want to do the easiest thing possible, which means not having to travel 20 miles into a national park to poach.
Speaker BThat just takes a lot of effort to do something illegal, especially when, you know, I mean, the Smokies are surrounded by national forest.
Speaker BSo you could run dogs all you want through the national forest and not have to go in there and not have to run them 20 miles.
Speaker BSo now I'm sort of thinking about all this stuff and sort of how that's sort of weird and doesn't make much sense.
Speaker BAnd then I started, and I could hear the dogs, and I could hear, quote, unquote, the hunter.
Speaker BBut I started, you know, paying.
Speaker BPaying more attention to it and, you know, hunting dogs hat they sound a particular way.
Speaker BAnd I.
Speaker BAnd I realized sort of each breed has their own sound, but still, like, hounds are hounds.
Speaker BYou can tell a hound.
Speaker BAnd although these sounded similar enough when I woke up to, like, you know, I thought a bunch, you know, they were running hounds.
Speaker BThe more I listened to them, the more I realized that they didn't really sound like hounds.
Speaker BYou know, there's a bunch of things barking, for lack of a better term, and howling, for lack of a better term, but wasn't the sound of.
Speaker BOf, like, a pack of hounds.
Speaker BAnd then The.
Speaker BThe hunter that was with them.
Speaker BI could hear them clearly and.
Speaker BAnd clear enough to decipher, okay, this is the hunter.
Speaker BAnd he.
Speaker BAnd here are the.
Speaker BThe hounds.
Speaker BAnd realize that, like, the hunter wasn't speaking in a language that I recognized or knew, you know, And I. I don't really speak many foreign languages, but I can.
Speaker BI can make a good guess on.
Speaker BOn which one I'm listening to, whether it be, you know, French or German or Spanish or whatever.
Speaker BAnd again, this was just a sound that.
Speaker BThat didn't.
Speaker BIt wasn't close to any language I've.
Speaker BI've ever heard or that I recognized at that time of night in that particular place.
Speaker BSo anyway, I listened to him for a good bit.
Speaker BThey never really got.
Speaker BGot any closer to our camp.
Speaker BUm, I listened to him until I couldn't hear him anymore.
Speaker BFive or ten minutes maybe.
Speaker BI stayed up awake for a while just trying to figure out what.
Speaker BWhat had just happened.
Speaker BThen eventually I fell asleep and, you know, didn't.
Speaker BDidn't hear them again.
Speaker BSo that's the three interesting stories I'm talking about tonight.
Speaker AHow far away was this happening from.
Speaker BWhere we were sleeping?
Speaker BYeah, I don't know, maybe couple hundred yards to a quarter mile is when it started.
Speaker BThen, you know, eventually they.
Speaker BThey.
Speaker BAs they got further away, you know, they faded out.
Speaker BBut a couple hundred yards to a quarter mile.
Speaker ASo their voice was loud?
Speaker ASort of.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BHounds are loud.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BAnd then, you know, and then when you're whooping them on and encouraging them on, you're, you know, sort of yelling and hooting and hollering at them like.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BWould you like to share one or two of your stories?
Speaker AI'll share two.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AMy first one was a.
Speaker ASo I was washing eggs on the property when it was a farm, which was a year ago.
Speaker BYeah, give or take.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AAnd then I started hearing this knocking on the wall about five feet away from the door.
Speaker AFor about the first five minutes, I thought it was just the wind knocking the branch onto the wall.
Speaker AAnd then I looked out and I saw that none of the other branches were moving.
Speaker AAnd I realized that there wasn't a tree close enough to be knocking on the wall.
Speaker ASo then I thought it was the person that was living on the property at the time.
Speaker ASo then five minutes later, I was going to go outside and see who it was.
Speaker ASo I got to the door.
Speaker AThen I couldn't open the door, like something was leaning against it with all of its mighty.
Speaker ASo then I went running over to the building where Beau was that Was my first one.
Speaker BPretty creepy, huh?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo you said you felt like.
Speaker BLike the door wasn't stuck, but something was actually holding it shut.
Speaker ALeaning against it.
Speaker ASo not holding it.
Speaker BYeah, but leaning against it so you couldn't open it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BGotcha.
Speaker BDid it make any noise or.
Speaker BI mean, other than the noise, like, banging?
Speaker BLike, did it make any, like, vocalizations?
Speaker AI didn't hear any.
Speaker AWho is in my next one is the way the farm was where is was in the front, there was a ginormous chicken coop.
Speaker AThen you.
Speaker AIf you went up the road, there was quail and baby chickens.
Speaker AThen if you go up the road some more, there was the building where I had my experience.
Speaker AI was at close to the building where I had my first experience.
Speaker AAnd then I started hearing this whistling, like, sounded far away.
Speaker AAnd then I told my mom because Bo wasn't there, and she couldn't hear it.
Speaker AThen about 20 minutes later, I think I heard it again at the big chicken coop at the front.
Speaker AAnd that time my mom could hear it.
Speaker AAnd the dogs were barking at the general area where it was happening.
Speaker AAnd the whistling was loud to be that clear and to be heard over the dogs, because I think we had five of them, and they were all barking in that area.
Speaker BAnd so what did the whistling sound like?
Speaker BLike, was it.
Speaker BIt.
Speaker BDid it sound like a person whistling or what did.
Speaker AI think it was about the same, like, rhythm of the knocking I heard on the wall of my first experience.
Speaker BBut did it sound like a person or did it or not so much?
Speaker AA little bit, except with, like, more powerful lungs.
Speaker BGotcha.
Speaker BSo it's really loud.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd the dogs weren't happy?
Speaker ANo.
Speaker BSo you think the dogs felt like it was a threat of some kind?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BShall we get into our creatures?
Speaker ASure.
Speaker BSo, as we mentioned at the beginning of this episode, I chose to do the lonely, sad, miserable creature hailing from the hardwood forests of Pennsylvania, known as the Squonk.
Speaker BThe S Q U O N K. Probably one of the saddest creatures to ever be rumored to exist or to exist.
Speaker BFound in the hemlock forest of Pennsylvania, is known.
Speaker BIt's just a pitiful creature.
Speaker BAnd the fact that it's sad and pitiful makes it even more sad and pitiful.
Speaker BI mean, it's hard.
Speaker BIt's hard.
Speaker BHard not to feel sorry for the Squonk.
Speaker BBut the Squonk is known for its profound and deep sorrow, its ugliness, it's shame, and for an unending cascade of tears.
Speaker BSupposedly, it's about the size of a pig it has four legs like a pig.
Speaker BBut that's where the resemblance ends.
Speaker BIt is so, quote, repulsed by its own ill fitting wart covered skin that it weeps constantly.
Speaker BAnd this perpetual sadness defines its existence and behavior, leading to perhaps its most bizarre reported trait, the ability to dissolve completely into a pool of tears and bubbles when it is captured or cornered, unquote.
Speaker BLet me break this down.
Speaker BWhen it either sees itself or when it knows somebody else has seen, gets so upset that something has, has witnessed its ugliness and grotesqueness that it starts crying so hard that it dissolves itself in its own tears into just a puddle of teary goop.
Speaker BThere's there.
Speaker BThere's been one or two reports of people actually capturing the creature.
Speaker BHowever, those people have no proof because once they got the creature back to like show their buddies and friends in the newspapers, they would open the sack or cage or whatever they got it in and there would be nothing but a puddle in there because the poor old squonk cried itself into oblivion.
Speaker BIt is also rumored to have webbed feet, but only on its the left side.
Speaker BSo it ever gets stuck in like a pond or a river or whatever.
Speaker BIt can only swim in circles, only its left feet are webbed.
Speaker BThe first written account of the Squonk was in 1920 in the book called Fearsome Creatures of the Lumberwoods written by William T. Cox.
Speaker BAnd there's a picture of the squonk in there and the illustrator was Court Dubois or Court Dubois.
Speaker BSo first name C O E R T, last name D U B O I S. So depending on where you're from, it's either Dubois or Dubois.
Speaker BI'll let you make the distinction.
Speaker BWilliam William Cox, the author Cox, he went around, you know, that area, so I guess the eastern Midwest, interviewing lumberjacks about strange encounters they'd had in the woods.
Speaker BAnd quite a few from the Pennsylvania area all shared this story of the squonk.
Speaker BSo he wrote it into his book.
Speaker BAnother book in 1939 called Fearsome Critters written by Henry H. Tryon.
Speaker BT R Y O N also talks about the squonk.
Speaker BAnd the illustration from that book has become like the, the, the.
Speaker BThe go to image of what the squonk looks like.
Speaker BAnd that squaw.
Speaker BAnd that in that picture was illustrated by, I'm assuming it was Henry's wife, but I guess it could have been his sister or daughter, Margaret R. Tryon.
Speaker BAnd like I said that that has been like the go to illustration of this is what a squonk looks like.
Speaker BAnd Again, that book is titled Fearsome Critters and it came out in 1939.
Speaker BThe Latin name for the Squonk is the lacryma corpus dissolvings, which translates into tear, body dissolving.
Speaker BVarious people have reported seeing it through the years through retellings.
Speaker BMain the main description of the Squonk has always held true.
Speaker BIt's miserable, it's sad, it's crying warty, has ill fitting skin.
Speaker BIf you.
Speaker BIf you ever want to see the Squonk, the They are reported to be most active at twilight and dusk and they like to stay in the shadows, doing their best to avoid bright light and doing their best to.
Speaker BTo minimize the risk of either anyone seeing it or of it seeing its own reflection in water or like a river or a pond or a puddle.
Speaker BThe thing doesn't want to be seen.
Speaker BIt's sad, it makes it cries.
Speaker BThe Squonk does have a couple of pop culture.
Speaker BI guess it has some pop culture notoriety.
Speaker BIn 1970, ZZ Top wrote a song called Squank.
Speaker B1974, Steely Dan referenced the Squonk in a song called Any major Dud will tell you.
Speaker BAnd Genesis wrote a song in 1976 titled Squonk.
Speaker BMore recent Pop culture, pop culture madness.
Speaker BI believe four years ago was the first Squankapalooza.
Speaker BSquankapalooza.
Speaker BThis is a festival dedicated to the Squonk in Pennsylvania.
Speaker BNext year, so 2026, I believe it will be happening on August 1st.
Speaker BLet's go check it out.
Speaker BAnd that is the Squonk.
Speaker BOkay, Randy, I'm gonna.
Speaker BI'm handing it over to you.
Speaker AThe glass Gabby Lan, or fairy cow as I'm going to be calling it, is a magic cow and an Irish folklore.
Speaker AAs the month of January draws to a close, we are fast approaching St. Bridget's Stand.
Speaker AThe first February, which in Irish tradition marks the first day of spring.
Speaker AIt is around this time of year that the calving season begins.
Speaker AAnd St. Bridget herself is considered the patron saint of cattle.
Speaker AAnd Irish tradition, the saint is often associated with the fairy cow.
Speaker AOne story of the fair fairy cow is One day a slime woman heard this story.
Speaker AShe vowed that she would bring a vessel which the cow couldn't fill.
Speaker AAnd she went under the cow and was milking her until it.
Speaker AUntil the cow got fed up.
Speaker ABy the length of the time the woman was under her and she grew impatient.
Speaker AShe looked behind her, and when she saw all, all, all her milk and little lakes around the field, her soul divided from her.
Speaker BGotcha.
Speaker BSo so the cow's soul departed.
Speaker BNot.
Speaker BNot the person.
Speaker BSo it wasn't like she was like, I'm gonna kill you, and like, no, no.
Speaker BSo the cow was just really perturbed.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABy somebody wasting her milk.
Speaker BThat wasn't very nice to that person.
Speaker BNo cow's here doing nice things for the people, giving all the milk it can give.
Speaker BGot peeved that somebody was wasting its milk and taking advantage.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd so where is this.
Speaker BWhere's this cow from?
Speaker AAgain, I wasn't able to get a specific location, but somewhere in Ireland.
Speaker BSomewhere in Ireland.
Speaker BAnd so the Irish, their pronunciations are a little.
Speaker BA little different than us.
Speaker BUs Americans.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWhich is why I was calling it the fairy cow.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWill you.
Speaker BWill you spell it how it's spelled in.
Speaker BIn Irish?
Speaker AG L, A S, G A V E L A N. No, that's.
Speaker BThat's the English translation.
Speaker BSpell how it would be spelled in.
Speaker BIn Irish.
Speaker AG L, A S, G A I, B, H, N, E, N, N. And then there are a couple of other pronunciations.
Speaker BUs Americans aren't used to pronouncing something like that.
Speaker BYeah, Another.
Speaker BAnother spelling.
Speaker BSo first would.
Speaker BWould be G, L, A S. And the second word would be G, A, I, B, H, N, E, A C, H. Another one has it spelled G A I, M H, N, E, A, C, H. I think that's all of.
Speaker AThem that I was able to.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt looks like the cow has been attributed to a couple different saints, so Saint Bridget, as was mentioned, but also Saint Brendan.
Speaker BAnd one rumor looks like it has.
Speaker BLike that the cow was sent by God to.
Speaker BTo help with the famine.
Speaker BYeah, that's it.
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