Host Blaine Duncan welcomes the ever-charismatic Dave Hill to the show, marking a delightful milestone as he interviews a guest he had no prior connection with.
Dave, a multifaceted comedian, musician, and author, brings a unique blend of humor and insight, sharing captivating stories -- mostly hilarious, very few gross. The two dive into the nuances of social media, with Dave candidly discussing his departure from Twitter and the unexpected liberations that followed, claiming, "I have, like, two extra hours in the day."
Throughout their talk, they explore the complexities of writing for different mediums, and Dave's humorous anecdotes, like his escapades involving monster trucks and his peculiar affinity for goats. At the end, listeners are treated to a whimsical look at what’s “done up real good” for Dave, from Indian cuisine to his love for lavender.
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Speaker BHello.
Speaker CWelcome back.
Speaker CHere you go, episode 103 of Short Takes.
Speaker CThird episode of the first season.
Speaker CTrying my hand out at interviewing people far and wide.
Speaker CArtists, musicians, what have you.
Speaker CThis was the episode that blew my mind.
Speaker CThis was the episode where I thought to myself, oh, I can ask anyone to come on the show, can I?
Speaker CThe worst case scenario is that they're just gonna say no, and that's okay and I'll move on.
Speaker CI'm really glad that I asked Dave Hill, the guest, to come on Short Takes.
Speaker CI remember he replied and said yes.
Speaker CAnd he replied, it wasn't a publicist, it was not a manager.
Speaker CI was so impressed and befuddled.
Speaker CHe was so nice about it.
Speaker CI said that.
Speaker CBut he was genteel as well, and I don't think he'll mind me saying that.
Speaker CI can remember going to my coworker's room next door and saying, you're not going to believe who I got.
Speaker CThis comedian said yes to be on my show.
Speaker CAnd I had his book in my hand because I had already started reading it and it was hilarious.
Speaker CSo instead, what we have is Dave Hill joining the show.
Speaker CThe first time I got someone whom I did not know or wasn't connected to in some fashion.
Speaker CDave is a musician and primarily comedian and an actor.
Speaker CI suppose he's all of those things at once.
Speaker CThat's actually his band playing the theme song till Last Week Tonight with John Oliver.
Speaker CBut Dave Hill is also an author.
Speaker CI mentioned that, having written four or five books to this point, all of them are funny.
Speaker CI can recommend them highly.
Speaker CDave Hill Doesn't Live Here Anymore is the favorite of mine, but it might not be your favorite.
Speaker CI can recommend them all highly.
Speaker CHe also has a sub stack which he writes about about about once a week, maybe once every two weeks at the most.
Speaker CAnd there are some really funny moments in there, gut bustingly funny there.
Speaker CAround the time of this recording, he had been one of the first men on the moon, metaphorically speaking.
Speaker CHe had been just kicked off Twitter and now we've all left Twitter.
Speaker CWe talk about that in the episode.
Speaker CWe also mentioned his writing, how good it actually is for.
Speaker CYou know, maybe you would just pass off a comedian as not being that good of a writer, but he is.
Speaker CHe has great stories.
Speaker CHe has great stories.
Speaker CHe has won winning tickets to a monster truck show involving the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Speaker CSomehow I forgot how that all got mixed together.
Speaker CThen he talks some religion, atheism, and, you know, we end every episode with what's done up real good.
Speaker CHe answers that for us.
Speaker CThe dated references that I can remember is that he has a small role on this show called Girls Forever.
Speaker CThe four is the number and it's Eva, but that's now on Netflix.
Speaker CYou may have seen it so.
Speaker CAnd if not, you can go and see his small performance there.
Speaker CHe has a small role and really Dave was the first major guest I'd had on the show when it came to real deal show bizarre.
Speaker CHe's still out there, he's still doing it.
Speaker CHe's still doing comedy.
Speaker CHis Instagram reels are still a lot of fun as well as his stand up comedy and his work as an actor and a writer still continues.
Speaker CSo here's this week's audio only episode of Short takes, originally from May 14, 2021, four years ago.
Speaker CIt's still on YouTube if you so desire to see it that way.
Speaker CBut enjoy the audio.
Speaker AForeign.
Speaker BWelcome once again to the Alabama Take our series Short Takes.
Speaker BI'm your host still to this day.
Speaker BMy name is Blaine Duncan.
Speaker BShort Takes is a brief interview talk show with one of our favorite people.
Speaker BAnd after some salutations, what we do is we ask our guests four questions with the fourth one always being the same.
Speaker BIf you've watched our couple of shows so far, you know what that fourth question is going to be.
Speaker BIf you're familiar with our website, you may know what that is.
Speaker BToday it is my honor, it really is, to introduce comedian, musician, writer, runner, toast aficionado, former funniest man on Twitter.
Speaker BAnd I'll talk about why that's he's still one of the funniest men online.
Speaker BHis name is Mr. Dave Hill.
Speaker BHey, Dave.
Speaker AHey, Belen, thanks for having me.
Speaker BThanks for coming on, man.
Speaker BSo no doubt, my friends and I agree, you are by far one of the funniest people who have been on Twitter.
Speaker BAnd lucky, lucky for me, lucky for my friends, you have transferred that same humor over to Instagram.
Speaker BDo you miss Twitter at all?
Speaker ANot really.
Speaker AI, I mean, the only thing I miss is that it was a good place to, you know, if you think of a joke or funny idea, you kind of just throw it up there.
Speaker AAnd so it's kind of a nice notepad and you can kind of get feedback on something or maybe, you know, maybe feedback on something that you didn't think was really anything and you're like, oh, this is somehow resonating with people and you can build on that idea.
Speaker ASo I miss that aspect of it, you know, the creative aspect of it.
Speaker AAnd you know, it would Help me write jokes for my, you know, stand up and things like that.
Speaker ABut I don't.
Speaker AOther than that, I think it's.
Speaker ANo, I don't miss any of it.
Speaker AYou know, I have, like, two extra hours in the day, and, you know, by.
Speaker ANot.
Speaker AAnd I don't start my day, you know, looking at Twitter and, you know, being in a bad mood.
Speaker AI mean, I think social media is.
Speaker AYou know, I don't want.
Speaker AI'm not gonna say anything that hasn't been said, but it's just kind of.
Speaker AI feel like it's.
Speaker AIt's just.
Speaker AIt's a thing that you can't be satisfied.
Speaker AYou know, like, you're like, oh, why didn't more people like that retweet that or engage with that?
Speaker AI thought that was great.
Speaker ALike, why is.
Speaker AWhy is everyone like this thing that this person said and not what I said or, you know, I just think it's like a death spy death spiral.
Speaker ANot a.
Speaker AYou know, it's just sort of like ego stuff that isn't healthy, I think.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd, you know, I think it's.
Speaker AI guess the short answer is more negative than positive.
Speaker ASo, no, I don't miss it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIs.
Speaker BDo you feel like Instagram's as.
Speaker BAs negatives?
Speaker AJust speaking of social media, really, it's maybe, you know, they can all be positive and negative.
Speaker AI mean, I think Twitter, going back to that, like, there's been phases of it that I do miss.
Speaker ALike the early, you know, when I first.
Speaker AWhen I first was on it and when it first was becoming a thing, you know, comedians and different creative people being on it, it was a great way to connect with people.
Speaker AAnd, you know, I met people all over the world and, you know, you'd be like, oh, I'm going to London.
Speaker AAnd, you know, early on, like, you know, the guys at the Onion, when they were in New York were like, hey, we like, you know, why don't you come to our party and, like, go to the party?
Speaker AI'm like, oh, I'm going to London.
Speaker AThey're like, oh, you should connect with this guy.
Speaker AAnd so it's great in that way.
Speaker AAnd now.
Speaker AAnd so now.
Speaker ANow, I guess Instagram is a similar thing.
Speaker AI guess the only thing I don't like is about Instagram is like, and this is probably in my head, but you start to feel like, oh, if I'm not posting about this thing, then people must think I don't support it.
Speaker AYou know, so I. I try to have fun.
Speaker ABut you, you know, sometimes, because there Are people to be like, why didn't.
Speaker ACalling out all the comedians that didn't post about the barge that went under in the Adriatic Sea.
Speaker AHow could you not be shining light on this?
Speaker AYou know, whatever.
Speaker AThe thing is, I find that a bit exhausting sometimes.
Speaker AAnd then, you know, sometimes, because it.
Speaker AMost of what I do is goof around, you know?
Speaker AYou know, then you post something and someone be like, what?
Speaker AI. I didn't know you were.
Speaker AI didn't know you were against injustice.
Speaker AHow dare you?
Speaker AYou know, like, how dare you be against racism?
Speaker AI thought you were cool.
Speaker AYou know, things like that.
Speaker AYou know, if someone, like, only follows me for my bike videos or something or whatever, I'm just.
Speaker BWhich are great, by the way.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker AI'm just.
Speaker AI'm just.
Speaker ANow you probably regret talking to me because you're like, dave is a rambling, unhinged lunatic.
Speaker ABut no, I'm just sort of thinking out loud.
Speaker AI'm pretty much a rambling, unhinged lunatic.
Speaker BSo, yeah, I have to say that there are.
Speaker BThat brings me to my next point, which is there are a few writers who make me physically laugh out loud, and that's even comedians.
Speaker BBut I found myself doing it repeatedly with your books and your essays online as well.
Speaker BI just.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker BI'm almost finished with Dave Hill doesn't live here anymore.
Speaker BI've got that right here with me.
Speaker BBut I'll put an actual image up on screen for people to see.
Speaker BAnd I'm about to start parking the Moose, which is.
Speaker BI'm thrilled to do that, honestly.
Speaker BThere.
Speaker BThere is.
Speaker BAnd I read a lot of comedians, their printed work, you know, their books and stuff.
Speaker BI think that you and Norm MacDonald are the two that make me actually, like, physically belt out laughter.
Speaker AOh, wow, thank you.
Speaker AI'm in good company then.
Speaker AThat's high praise.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWhat can you.
Speaker BCan you put into words what the difference between writing from the page and writing for stand up is?
Speaker BIt's got to be two different arts.
Speaker AYeah, I think it's.
Speaker AIt's different.
Speaker AYou know, it's not as simple as, you know, you.
Speaker AYou can't just go out and say the same words on stage that you wrote.
Speaker AIt doesn't quite work.
Speaker AAnd then I can't just write down, like, if I have, like, a story or whatever I've been telling on stage, it doesn't quite work to just write down exactly what I would say on stage.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AYou know, it's.
Speaker AThere's an energy, you know, when you're on Stage, there's an energy to it, dealing with the audience right away and feeling that energy and kind of pushing and pulling with that.
Speaker AAnd with writing on the page, it's just kind of a different feeling.
Speaker AI mean, I guess I think more in terms of talking to one person.
Speaker AWhen I'm writing for the page, I'm kind of thinking, like, one person is going to be sitting there.
Speaker AAnd so I'm writing it and reading it back.
Speaker AAnd so I'm pretending to be the one person.
Speaker AAnd then there's a voice in my head that's yelling at me, saying, I'm horrible, and I shouldn't have tried in the first place to even do it.
Speaker AAnd then there's the other voice.
Speaker AIt's like, well, we have to do it now because we already took the money.
Speaker AWe gotta finish this book.
Speaker AYou know, so there's a lot of that, maybe less of that with.
Speaker AI would say that, you know, both things, you know, it's probably easier to get in the flow of being on, you know, and on stage.
Speaker AYou can work it out on stage.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd it's more.
Speaker AI'm not really hearing the voices in my head telling me they tell me I'm horrible right before I go on, and then immediately after I get off and then.
Speaker ABut, you know, writing.
Speaker AYou know, writing for a book or an essay or whatever feel is a different.
Speaker AThough I have to say.
Speaker AYou know, I'd say the first two books.
Speaker AMy first two books, I tormented myself a lot the whole time.
Speaker AAnd then with Parking the Moose, the third book, I was kind of like, what if.
Speaker AWhat if I didn't bother tormenting myself, you know, and just let myself write the book and try to do the best I can and see where that gets me?
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd I think.
Speaker AI don't.
Speaker AI don't think it affected the quality negatively to not torment myself quite as much.
Speaker AI did.
Speaker AThat was the sort of grand experiment with that book is like, I'll just write it and not berate myself mentally.
Speaker AAnd then even with the publisher, I tried to, though they may argue differently.
Speaker ABut I was like, and I'm not gonna be a prick to anyone at the publisher.
Speaker AI'm not gonna fight over artwork, you know.
Speaker ACause I.
Speaker AYou know, the first two books, I was pretty, like, combative about what the COVID would be in ways like that.
Speaker AMore, my agent was like, you know, most.
Speaker AYou know, most authors don't get away with this, you know, But I was.
Speaker AI just really wanted the COVID to be right.
Speaker AAnd fortunately, actually, you know, I'm happy With all the covers, of course, but with Parking the Moose, they sent the COVID and I loved it right away.
Speaker ASo there was.
Speaker AThere was no.
Speaker AWasn't.
Speaker ALike I suppressed any anger or whatever.
Speaker ANot anger, but like, you know, I'm just really into visual things as well.
Speaker ASo when it comes to artwork, I can be a real bitch.
Speaker BYou do have a lot of irons in the fire.
Speaker BYou know, speaking of being individual art as well.
Speaker BYou tell any.
Speaker BTell our viewers anything I miss, I'm gonna try to rattle off what all you.
Speaker BYou tend to do stand up comedy when there isn't a pandemic.
Speaker BYou Front Valley Lodge.
Speaker BAnd people may know that band from Go, the song Go that plays at the beginning of every episode of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker BYou write, you're an author, you front Witch Tank.
Speaker AWell, I'm.
Speaker ARight, I'm in.
Speaker AWhich I. I do some sing.
Speaker AIt's me and.
Speaker AMe and my buddy Phil, AKA Matthias, backwards, though he does most of the scenes.
Speaker AHe stands in the middle, so.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AHe's.
Speaker AI would say he's the main.
Speaker BYou're in that band, though.
Speaker AI'm.
Speaker AYeah, I'm the.
Speaker AYou know, it all started with acting.
Speaker AI do acting.
Speaker BI made a guest appearance on Peacock's new show that's now on Peacock Girls five.
Speaker AGirls five Eva.
Speaker AThat just came out.
Speaker AAnd yeah, I'm on an episode of that.
Speaker AYeah, I'm in it.
Speaker AAnd I'm in a movie called Drunk Bus that comes out May 21, which I'm really excited about as well.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd I do.
Speaker AI do acting.
Speaker ANot as much as I'd like to, but fortunately I get to do it a few times a year.
Speaker APeople will let me come and play a pervert or some drug dealer or something.
Speaker BOr a perverted drug dealer.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AThe sweet spot.
Speaker AThat's my sweet spot.
Speaker AActually.
Speaker ACombine the two, there's a chapter in.
Speaker BDave Hill doesn't Live Here Anymore titled Giving Something Back, where you show up to an event where only one person's there and he's eating soup.
Speaker AOh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BAnd I'm really hoping you don't feel like today you've got yourself in a similar situation.
Speaker ANo, not at all.
Speaker ANo, I would.
Speaker AI would.
Speaker AYou could probably sense it if I did feel that way.
Speaker ABut I have to say, you know, I was just talking about this last night with a friend I don't really look at.
Speaker AYou know, when things go really badly, you know me, you know, I got myself in some situation where I'm like, oh, God, in the Big picture.
Speaker AIt's really all positives because then I can talk about it on stage or write about it, you know, or just laugh about it over.
Speaker AOver dinner.
Speaker AI don't.
Speaker AThere's very few things where I look back and be like, oh, my gosh, I really wish that didn't happen.
Speaker AA handful here and there.
Speaker BThe episode with the one guy, Mark, eating soup.
Speaker BAnd then the kung fu chapter where you go kung fu are.
Speaker BThose are the best to me in the book.
Speaker AOh, thanks.
Speaker AYou know, the kung fu, I still feel, because I think of the, you know, this idea of kung fu and like, the things we see in movies, you know, like, there seems to be such honor with it that when I stopped, I felt like I had to buy these shoes to take to join the school, you know, And I had them in my.
Speaker AMy closet for the longest time.
Speaker AAnd my friend was like, oh, I love those shoes.
Speaker AThey're so comfortable.
Speaker AAnd I couldn't bring myself to wear them because I was like, you don't deserve to wear those shoes, Dave.
Speaker AYou failed at kung fu.
Speaker AYou quit.
Speaker ALike, those shoes mock you.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker ABut then my dog run shoes that I normally wear, they were kind of worn out, and I was like, I need to buy a new pair.
Speaker AAnd I was like, well, I have these kung fu shoes.
Speaker ASo I started wearing them recently, and they are amazingly comfortable.
Speaker AAnd I like to think that people that can recognize them as kung fu shoes know not to mess with me because I am a martial artist, even though I'm not.
Speaker ALet's be clear.
Speaker BYeah, well, three classes does not a martial artist make.
Speaker ANo, I mean, it's fun while it lasted.
Speaker AIt's a good exercise.
Speaker BSuch a funny chapter, I'll tell you that.
Speaker AOh, thanks.
Speaker BSo, yeah, I've mentioned you want to do the four questions.
Speaker ASure.
Speaker AWhatever you want.
Speaker AWhatever works.
Speaker BLet's do it.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BSo here come our four questions.
Speaker BThis is kind of what we based the show around.
Speaker BI've mentioned a lot of your accomplishments.
Speaker BWhat are the three best things about you that your followers and fans may not know?
Speaker AThe best things.
Speaker AI mean, I feel like so much of my life is.
Speaker AI mean, well, like everyone's life is out there, you know, and there it's whatever.
Speaker ABut I would say things that people wouldn't know.
Speaker AI never take, like, the last slice of pizza or anything like that.
Speaker AI'll always make every effort to make sure someone else can.
Speaker ALike, I was out with friends the other night.
Speaker AWe got mozzarella balls, and there was one left.
Speaker AAnd I really was like, hey, someone Else eat this.
Speaker AAnd once I truly, once I establish that no one else wants something, then I will eat the last of something, but not until I've exhausted every possibility that someone else might want to eat it instead.
Speaker ASo I think that's maybe annoying after a point, but in general it's a good quality.
Speaker BThat's a good quality, sure.
Speaker AWhat else?
Speaker AI really, I love animals.
Speaker ABut I think most people know that with my dog.
Speaker ABut I love, really, I love goats.
Speaker AI don't think a lot of people know how much I love.
Speaker AI think it.
Speaker AWell, you read about in parking the moose.
Speaker AI get into my affinity for goat.
Speaker AI love, I love animals.
Speaker AFrolicking with animals though, I don't know if that's a secret I've met.
Speaker BGood quality though.
Speaker AIt's a good quality.
Speaker AAnd then just things, the things that come to mind that I don't think I've talked about too much.
Speaker AThis is fully bragging.
Speaker AThere's been instances where I've sort of done heroic acts in public where like you have to act, you know, you can't think, you just have to.
Speaker ASo this my favorite one is there were these women got on, this is a few years ago in New York.
Speaker AThey got on the train and they were just being really loud and it was raining and they, they were.
Speaker AAnd this guy was sort of glaring at them to.
Speaker AIt was a crowded rush hour train, you know, they were shoving, shove their way onto the train.
Speaker AJust being very inconsiderate.
Speaker AAnd this guy was kind of giving them a hard time and they were yelling at him, like calling him ugly, just insulting him, you know.
Speaker AAnd they got off the train and the door opened and it was.
Speaker AThe door was not closing and I had it in my head, they had these umbrellas and I was like, I think they're gonna come back and hit this guy in the head with the umbrella.
Speaker AI just could sense that this was what was gonna happen.
Speaker AAnd I was reading a book, I can't remember the book.
Speaker AAnyway, I was reading the book.
Speaker AVery proud of this story, as you can tell.
Speaker AAnd I don't even know if this answers your question now that I'm hearing myself.
Speaker ABut anyway.
Speaker BWell, it's still a great story so far.
Speaker AHe was, he had his back to the open door so he couldn't see them and they sure enough came back and tried to hit him in the head with their umbrella.
Speaker ALike bat him in the head.
Speaker AAnd I was reading my book and so right as they swung, I like grabbed the umbrella and stopped it just short of his head.
Speaker AHe thought I was insane because I just reached behind his head and he didn't know what was happening.
Speaker AAnd he was just like, why is this guy grabbing behind my head?
Speaker AThe women with the umbrellas were like, oh, this guy's a superhero.
Speaker AWe didn't see that coming.
Speaker AAnd then there was this beautiful woman like standing right here who witnessed the whole thing.
Speaker AAnd this is like something out of a movie.
Speaker AShe.
Speaker ASo they pulled the women, pulled the umbrella away and ran off.
Speaker ALike, oh my God, that guy thwarted our attempt at hitting this guy.
Speaker AAnd then the beautiful woman just said, wow, you're good.
Speaker AAnd I was like, yeah, that was pretty awesome.
Speaker AAnyway, so there's that my heroic.
Speaker AAnd I have other heroic tales of subway.
Speaker AYou know, saving old ladies, falling down escalators, things like that.
Speaker AJust no, there's only one story this.
Speaker ASo I have two good.
Speaker BPeople.
Speaker AI did.
Speaker AThere was another time there were two older ladies, like where one got an escalator and was like, whoa.
Speaker AAnd fell down and the other was trying to drag her off the escalator.
Speaker AAnd I just.
Speaker BThat's not funny.
Speaker AI just grabbed the woman and dragged her off the escalator and set her down and continued on my way.
Speaker ASo subway heroics, I think is a thing that no one, you know, maybe friends might.
Speaker AI've bored them with these stories.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker ASo that's the thing.
Speaker BI didn't see that coming.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker ASubway heroics, very big with me.
Speaker AAnd did I mention I've driven a monster truck?
Speaker BI didn't know this.
Speaker AI don't think it's documented in any of my work, but I once drove through the Gravedigger monster truck.
Speaker BThe you.
Speaker BYou drove the monster truck?
Speaker AYeah, the Michael, the Barbara Streisand of monster trucks.
Speaker AI drove it years ago in the 90s.
Speaker AMy first band, Sons of Elvis.
Speaker ABest slash worst band name ever.
Speaker AWe, you know, is the 90s.
Speaker ASo it would have been like a peak time for a band to put a monster truck on an album cover.
Speaker AYou know, it's very trendy to be to sort of co opt things like that.
Speaker ASo we used a photo of Gravedigger for one of our singles.
Speaker AAnd then the guy, Dennis Anderson, that, the Gravedigger guy, invited us to his compound in I think Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina.
Speaker AAnd so we, the band went down there and we all got to drive.
Speaker AInterest of full disclosure.
Speaker AThe version there's multiple gravediggers, just like there's multiple Shamu's.
Speaker AYou know, if there is Shamu anymore, I don't even know the Gravedigger we drove was like, not as.
Speaker AIt was slight.
Speaker AIt was meant for, like, just driving around.
Speaker AIt wasn't competition ready, but it was.
Speaker AIt looked the same.
Speaker AOh, okay.
Speaker AI'll give you one more.
Speaker AThis is more than you asked for.
Speaker BIt's great.
Speaker AI once ate, I think, 15 raw jalapeno peppers in like, in one minute.
Speaker AFirst of all, like, anyone who's into spicy foods knows that raw jalapeno peppers, that's like amateur hour.
Speaker AThat's not anything really.
Speaker ABut when you have 15 raw ones in a minute, that becomes a different sport.
Speaker AIt was like again, going, I think the 90s.
Speaker AWhenever Dave Navarro was in Red Hot Chili Peppers and they made the record One Hot Minute.
Speaker AWhenever that was.
Speaker AI was living in Cleveland, where I'm from, and the local radio station had like a Cinco de Mayo contest where you could go to the local whatever, Mexican.
Speaker AIt wasn't like a good Mexican restaurant.
Speaker AIt was like a chain bad Mexican restaurant and they had a contest.
Speaker AWhoever could eat 15 jalapeno peppers in under a minute got front row seats to Red Hot Chili Peppers at the whatever Arena.
Speaker AI can't remember they changed the name of the arena every week anymore.
Speaker ASo I didn't really want the tickets necessarily.
Speaker ABut just as a point of pride, I wanted to win.
Speaker AThat's not a swipe at Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Speaker AI. I would just.
Speaker AIf John Frusciante was the guitar player, I would have taken the tickets anyway.
Speaker ASo I won and I got the tickets.
Speaker AAnd no disrespect to Dave Navarro, but I just feel like I didn't need to go see that.
Speaker ASo I ended up, I think I sold the tickets, which I wouldn't do today.
Speaker AIt's a different time in my life when I needed the money.
Speaker ASo I sold.
Speaker AI think I sold them for like 50 bucks.
Speaker ALike, not a lot of money.
Speaker BSo did the.
Speaker BWas it.
Speaker BDid you throw up?
Speaker AI did.
Speaker AThat's a very good question.
Speaker AI.
Speaker ABecause what happened actually is the guy across from me, we tied because he, I don't think was ready to go at it that hard.
Speaker ABut he.
Speaker AHe saw how quickly I was eating them and was like, I better step it up.
Speaker ASo we actually tied and they wanted to have like a tie breaker contest and have us eat more of them.
Speaker AAnd we both, in an act of solidarity, we both said like, no, neither one of us are eating any more peppers.
Speaker AYou owe us both the tickets.
Speaker AAnd so they, they gave us both front row tickets.
Speaker ASo I think it was real problem solving lesson, I think, of working Together rather than battle each other.
Speaker AHey, let's work together.
Speaker AAnd we joined forces and defeated the radio station that was going to try to get us to eat more peppers.
Speaker AAnyway, what happened was then they gave us milk to like cool off.
Speaker AAnd I did throw up because I was.
Speaker AI mean, this is gross, but it's a different time in my life.
Speaker AI made myself throw up because I thought, you know, as anyone who eats really spicy food knows, you pay the price twice.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BYes, sir.
Speaker AI didn't want to deal with the second toll, I guess.
Speaker ASo I threw up rather than deal with it the next day.
Speaker ASo there you go.
Speaker BUnderstandable.
Speaker AI think I gave you, maybe gave you too many things.
Speaker BThat was great.
Speaker BAnd, and we found out more about you.
Speaker AYou did perfect, whether you like it or not.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo I'm a teacher in my spare time.
Speaker AOh, nice.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AHow do you have spare time as a teacher?
Speaker BIsn't that, that's.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BThat's not a thing at all, the spare time thing.
Speaker BBut I do want, let's say you could say something to my students.
Speaker BI teach 16, 17 year old kids, juniors in high school.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo what do you wish somebody would have told you when you were 17?
Speaker AI would say that you.
Speaker AAny the hierarchy of whatever you think is important at that age, none of it matters at all.
Speaker AYou know, being the cool kid, the coolest, most popular kid in high school, that might be as good as it gets for them, you know, so you don't want to be that guy, you know, don't worry any, don't, don't worry about any of that stuff.
Speaker ADon't worry about fitting in.
Speaker AI think I knew that already by that age.
Speaker AFitting in is absolutely pointless.
Speaker AYou just want to be the best you, you can be.
Speaker AYou're not.
Speaker AYou don't want to.
Speaker AYou want to be the best Dave Hill or Blaine Duncan.
Speaker AYou don't want to be the best, the kid who fits in the most in your school.
Speaker AIt doesn't matter at all.
Speaker AAnd the only thing that matters is just being kind and helping other people.
Speaker AYou know, love and kindness.
Speaker AI know it's a cliche, but those are the only things I think that matters.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker ASo that's what I would say.
Speaker ABe, you know, have fun and just do, do.
Speaker AAs long as no one's getting hurt, you know, as long as, no, you're not getting hurt, no one else is getting hurt.
Speaker AYou should do whatever you're thinking about doing.
Speaker AJust whatever crazy idea you have, as long as it doesn't like Hurt anyone in any way, do it.
Speaker ALike, if you're like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna build a.
Speaker AWhatever, a Godzilla out of bananas or.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AThat's not.
Speaker ADon't do that.
Speaker ADon't do that specifically, but, you know, just do whatever crazy idea you're thinking of.
Speaker AYeah, that's all.
Speaker ABecause the older I get, I mean, I sort of realize the only thing that really matters is the love and kindness and then like eating, like Chinese food with your friends or whatever food you want, you know, it could be.
Speaker AIt could be potato chips, it doesn't matter.
Speaker ABut the quality time with loved ones, that's really all that matters.
Speaker ADon't worry about the other stuff.
Speaker BYou know, I graduated in 95 and I don't.
Speaker BWas it a thing of the era or a thing of just my small town that counselors didn't tell you you could do the things you saw on tv?
Speaker BLike, yeah, they.
Speaker BThey need people to operate a camera in la.
Speaker BThey need people to write scripts in New York.
Speaker BAnd no one told me this.
Speaker AYeah, that was the same thing.
Speaker AYou know, growing up, you know, I think.
Speaker AI think I wasted.
Speaker AYou know, I'm a real late bloomer with everything, most things that I do.
Speaker AAnd a big part of it was I think I spent a lot of time thinking that I had to do something that other people have.
Speaker AYou know, I like, do you find a job that will make you a respectable citizen?
Speaker AYou know, find a job that will make it so your mother can explain what you do to her friends after church, you know, and I wasted a lot of time kind of compromising my.
Speaker AWhat I was interested in and thinking like, well, I like doing this.
Speaker AWhat's like a practical way to do that.
Speaker AAnd in the end, I abandoned all that and I just did what I wanted and now I do what I want it I want.
Speaker AYou know, I'm not like some huge superstar or bazillionaire or anything, but I've.
Speaker ABut I've gotten to do things in many different areas that I've always wanted to do.
Speaker AAnd it was only once I stopped trying to fit in and please other people or try to realize someone else's expectations, you know, and you know what I realized?
Speaker AA lot of it is, you know, when my mother died, you know, I spent my whole life thinking like, oh, she wants me to be this, that, or whatever.
Speaker ARight before she died, I realized like, oh, that was like kind of manufactured in my head.
Speaker AYou know, she just wants me to be happy and not turn in tricks on the west side Highway.
Speaker AOr, you know, she wants me to not, you know, she wants me to be able to eat and have a roof over my head and be happy, you know, and the.
Speaker AI, I think the push and pull was mostly in my head, but I don't know.
Speaker ASo if any of that makes sense to 16, 17 year olds.
Speaker AThe other thing, drink a lot of water, stay hydrated.
Speaker AI think that's important.
Speaker AYou know, you could even just edit out everything else I said and, and say that I.
Speaker BDrink water.
Speaker ADrink water.
Speaker ADon't vape.
Speaker AWaste of time.
Speaker ADon't do that.
Speaker BThat's a good.
Speaker AIf you're gonna do it, just smoke cigarettes.
Speaker ANo, don't do that.
Speaker BTell them no.
Speaker BBut it's exactly what I tell.
Speaker BIt's truly jest, but, but yeah, I do say, don't bother with the vape.
Speaker BJust smoke.
Speaker BAnd then I laugh and probably have turned on way too many kids to cigarettes.
Speaker ASo, yeah, that.
Speaker ALet's see.
Speaker AI mean, going further, I would say, you know, I'm not gonna try to tell anyone what to, you know, but don't.
Speaker AHard drugs.
Speaker ADon't, don't.
Speaker AI'm not going to tell you to do anything.
Speaker ABut I can't think of anyone I've ever known who got into hard drugs and was like, wow, that was great.
Speaker AI really am glad I did all that.
Speaker AIt doesn't work out, but we're getting too serious now with the advice.
Speaker BWell, my next question is really serious, so we'll jump to three.
Speaker BYou mentioned your mom talking to her friends after church.
Speaker BSo what are your thoughts on religion?
Speaker BIs there a God?
Speaker BWhat do you think?
Speaker AYou know, I definitely believe in.
Speaker AI think I'm sort of open and fluid to.
Speaker AI think my feelings have changed.
Speaker AI think ultimately, yes, I believe in.
Speaker AIn certainly like a higher power and things like that, but I, you know, maybe it shifted from, you know, what I grew up with, where you're like, there's this man in the sky.
Speaker AI don't really think in those terms.
Speaker AI'm sure I do actually think in those terms because, you know, when you're raised Catholic and I don't think, you know, people.
Speaker AI say, raised Catholic, people always say, I was raised Catholic.
Speaker AI think if you were raised Catholic, you can't.
Speaker AYou think you can escape, but you can.
Speaker AYou never escape.
Speaker AI'll always, like when people say, oh, I was raised Catholic, but I'm not Catholic anymore.
Speaker AI'm like, what, were you excommunicated?
Speaker ALike, you can't.
Speaker AFor better or for worse, you can't ever get it out of you.
Speaker ASo anyway, but I.
Speaker AAnyway, so I think my perceptions change.
Speaker ABut I, you know, I think especially, you know, I think there is, you know, and any way you look at it, really, if you even want to look at it from just energy and quantum physics or string theory or whatever, I think energy, you know, energy what neither created nor destroyed.
Speaker AAnd I think in my experiences, you know, with my mother dying, I really have experienced profound things, I think in my connection with her, you know, since she's been gone.
Speaker ASo I.
Speaker ABut in terms of like a formal definition, I guess I'm not.
Speaker AI'm reluctant to pin down what the definition.
Speaker ABut ultimately the short answer, yes, there is.
Speaker AIs a God.
Speaker AI mean, in the, you know, depend in that can be many.
Speaker AThe God, of course, you know, can be just being present in life right now, you know, that, that that's experiencing God, you know, because we spend so much time thinking about the past and future.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo anyway, I've not really answered your question, but.
Speaker BNo, I think that I get where you.
Speaker BWhere you're coming from.
Speaker AI think, I mean, like, I'm not, I'm not a atheist or I don't know if I would say I'm agnostic.
Speaker AAnd I, you know, sometimes I will like, drift back into being fully, you know, in my Catholic upbringing, headspace, you know, I'll shift into that and.
Speaker ABut I'm kind of just kind of watching my perceptions of what I'm thinking and I think ultimately, you know, it goes back to, you know, just trying to treat each treat.
Speaker AIf you live with love and kindness as best you can.
Speaker AAnd I try to.
Speaker AI fail many times, you know, yell it.
Speaker AI'll send nasty emails to the loud restaurant across the street and, you know, so I'm not always the best at it.
Speaker AAnd I've, you know, hurt people, sure as we all have.
Speaker ABut to be as nice as my dog.
Speaker AI just try to be as nice as she is.
Speaker AShe's a sweetie.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThat's a good one.
Speaker BWell, we have a saying around our side.
Speaker BThis is our fourth question.
Speaker BAnd this is.
Speaker BGoes back to our little.
Speaker CI don't know if it's a catchphrase.
Speaker BOr not, but we like to say that things are done up real good.
Speaker BMeaning basically that they're just pleasing to us or we're into it.
Speaker BIt's something that actually stemmed from my mom.
Speaker AOh, nice.
Speaker BShe would say that some.
Speaker BShe would say something's done up real good.
Speaker BShe would actually say it when she was ironing my clothes.
Speaker BShe Would be getting me ready for school or whatever.
Speaker BShe'd say, oh, this shirt is done up real good.
Speaker BWhich means I'm gonna be presentable, I suppose.
Speaker BSo what's done up real good for you of late?
Speaker AI mean, I could go on all day long about things that are done up real good.
Speaker AI will say, you know, just something fresh in my head.
Speaker AWell, give you.
Speaker AMaybe I'll give you a lightning round of things I really like.
Speaker BI've had guests do that.
Speaker BThat's good.
Speaker AOkay, so I really like the TV show Letter Kenny.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI love that stunner program.
Speaker AAnd girls 5eva, of course, which just came out.
Speaker AThat's done up real good.
Speaker ASo those are two.
Speaker AAnd just so I say, letter Kenny, I'm not on that.
Speaker AI would love to be on that show if anyone's working there watching right now, you know, So I meant, like I mentioned something that I have nothing to do with.
Speaker AI think that's only fair.
Speaker AAnd another thing, my friend Anu Vpel, who lives in Mumbai, I told him, you know, I was back in New York, I'd been back in Ohio for a bit, and he said, oh, my friend from growing up in Calcutta has a restaurant called the Kathi Roll.
Speaker AAnd it's like Indian street food.
Speaker AAnd I love Indian food.
Speaker ASo I went over there the other day, it was absolutely delicious.
Speaker AI want to go again today.
Speaker AThat's done up real good, I'd say.
Speaker ACan I just say Indian?
Speaker ABecause I realize it's not helpful to just tell you a place in my neighborhood that most people.
Speaker ASo I would say just Indian food in general is done up real good.
Speaker AI love it.
Speaker BYeah, there you go.
Speaker ABlueberry muffins, when done right.
Speaker AGreat.
Speaker AI'm big into those.
Speaker AEverything.
Speaker ABagels done up real good with cream cheese and butter.
Speaker ASome people say both is too much, but I'm not afraid to go hard at that.
Speaker AWhat else?
Speaker APuppies.
Speaker AMy dog.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker ADone up real good.
Speaker AI'm really into the color lavender lately.
Speaker AI'd say that's done up real good.
Speaker ALike, I was at a friend's house and she had.
Speaker AIt might be my favorite color.
Speaker AShe had these some like, you know, they're making all these sodas now that have all this natural good, you know, whatever, like ginseng and a branch from a tree.
Speaker AAnd I don't know, but she presented me with a peach colored can, which was probably peach flavored, now that I think about it, and then a lavender can.
Speaker AAnd I didn't read either one of them.
Speaker AAnd I said, I want the lavender one because it's lavender.
Speaker AI don't think it had anyway.
Speaker ABut I like that color.
Speaker AI guess you could again edit.
Speaker AI feel bad for you.
Speaker AYou probably.
Speaker AI shouldn't have asked this guy to do this because I really only say a few words of any use to anybody and then the rest is babbling from a lunatic.
Speaker ABut I like the color lavender.
Speaker AI'll just leave it at that.
Speaker BOkay, Those are great.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BThose are great.
Speaker BYou're not the first person to mention a specific restaurant on the show.
Speaker CPeople do that quite a bit.
Speaker BFood seems to be a very common answer.
Speaker BHonestly, a specific food.
Speaker AI love.
Speaker AI love food.
Speaker AI mean, everyone.
Speaker AEveryone has to eat.
Speaker BSo everybody loves food.
Speaker BBut that.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BSince the advent of Instagram, like people.
Speaker BI really want to talk about a very specific food.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWell, Dave, I am much obliged for your time today.
Speaker AThank you for having me.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI know you got a lot of irons in the fire.
Speaker BYou're a busy guy with all the bicycling and running and playing and riding and rocking, hosting and.
Speaker AI know I might have toast after this.
Speaker AActually, not to brag.
Speaker BI'll.
Speaker BI'll check your Instagram and see.
Speaker AYeah, I will document it if I do.
Speaker AFor sure.
Speaker BAnd the viewers.
Speaker BI can't express how funny Dave is.
Speaker BAnd he's one of the greats whose humor transfers so well to the page.
Speaker BSo find his books.
Speaker BParking the Moose.
Speaker BDave Hill doesn't live anymore.
Speaker BDoesn't live here anymore.
Speaker BTasteful nudes.
Speaker BAnd he's got essays online as well.
Speaker BYou can find those.
Speaker BAs for us.
Speaker BOh, one more thing.
Speaker BWatch Peacock's Girls 5.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BHe makes an appearance in episode six or seven.
Speaker AEpisode seven.
Speaker AIt's a surprise.
Speaker ABut it's episode seven.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BOkay, we'll keep it.
Speaker AAnd then the movie.
Speaker AMovie Drunk Bus, out May 21, stars Charlie Tahan from Ozark.
Speaker AWill Forte is in it.
Speaker AAnd it's.
Speaker AIt's a great movie.
Speaker AAnd I.
Speaker AAnd I play devo, obsessed drug dealer.
Speaker AJust weed.
Speaker AHe just steals weed.
Speaker BThat's fair.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BThat seems okay.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BSo that will actually be out, I think, a week after our episode drops.
Speaker BSo check it out next week.
Speaker BAnd for us, we'll be back next Friday, every Friday with a new episode of Short Takes.
Speaker BThanks again to Dave Hill.
Speaker BWe'll talk to everyone later.
Speaker AWe went walking and was blown away.

